ronald reagan turned things around from a worse position. >> no, but what i'm saying, i'm not arguing those points, i'm saying that what happened was clinton is, was there and was able to say, i couldn't have turned it around no one could have and if you look since that speech, that's where obama started to have this, you know, this move up in the lead, i think, what clearly believe we can get into whether the polls are right or wrong about the size of it. clearly leads. what i'm saying about the debates, romney has a chance, there is no filter and he'll be able to make the case and certainly afterwards, president is going to, and pundits like me are going to say what they interpreted for people the fact that the audience is going to be so huge that i don't think that people listen to that interpretation. >> one last one for you, no. in your heart. look, i respect you, i think you're a very honest man, if your heart. do you think that a second obama term, he would stay hard left or he'll move to the center? i say he stays hard left. what do you say? >> look, i think there are a lot of